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Al Morgan
07-20-2008, 08:21 AM
I've got the Fist-Fire DVD's and they have really helped.:) But I'm having trouble maintaining the proper grip. I start out OK, but after a few shots I tend to go into the over grip position on the gun. :o :confused: Any advice would be appreicated.

Jeff Koke
07-21-2008, 01:32 PM
I've got the Fist-Fire DVD's and they have really helped.:) But I'm having trouble maintaining the proper grip. I start out OK, but after a few shots I tend to go into the over grip position on the gun. :o :confused: Any advice would be appreicated.

Al,

A big part of this is practice.

Find a quiet place, making sure the gun is unloaded and practice drawing from the holster. If you can get in front of a mirror, that can help, too.

Just a couple of thoughts. YMMV

Jeff

Joe Ford
07-21-2008, 07:56 PM
The grip doesnt fit your hand, you can learn to work around it but you may be better off changing to a platform that fits your natural point of aim better. The biggest thing I got out of Fist fire was how much of the technique wasnt really a technique but doing what your body wanted to do anyway an using it instead of fighting it into an artificial movement.

D.R. Middlebrooks
07-22-2008, 09:20 AM
I find that the rounded back straps on the Glocks get slippery when wet (like from the sweat on the palm your hands). And then the tighter you squeeze, the more you'll find your hand slips around towards the front of the gun.

I'd say add a slip on rubber grip and/or get the flat back strap modification done that I offer. :cool:

John Badertscher
07-22-2008, 02:48 PM
get the flat back strap modification done that I offer. :cool:

+1 Not only does DR's flat backstrap helps with the slipping, but your grip memory is improved. It gives more positive feedback that your hands are in the right place. It helps a lot with consistency.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/DSC_1087.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/DSC_0539.jpg

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Al Morgan
09-26-2008, 09:52 AM
Does flattening the back strap on the Glock REALLY help all that much? :confused: What about the point ability of the pistol afterwords, doesn't it change? :confused:

D.R. Middlebrooks
09-29-2008, 09:03 AM
Does flattening the back strap on the Glock REALLY help all that much? :confused: What about the point ability of the pistol afterwords, doesn't it change? :confused:

Yes, the grip angle changes...for the better! :eek:

Glocks point high for the average person. After my flat backstrap mod, they point more naturally and you won't slip into over grip when your hands get sweaty. :cool:

http://www.tacticalshooting.com/photos/DSC03411.jpg

W. Crumb
10-03-2008, 09:09 AM
DR did a flat backstrap mod for me without the stippling and it works great, too. Gun really point nice. I can close my eyes and raise the gun up and when I open them the sights are on the target. Used to be the front sight pointed high (out of the notch) for me on my G23. :cool:

http://www.tacticalshooting.com/photos/DSC03410.jpg

And this mod really helps me and keeps me from over gripping. My hand doesn't want to slide around the oval back strap like on the stock Glock. :)

C. Coburn
10-06-2008, 11:07 AM
What about using a rubber wrap around, slip on sleeve? Wouldn't that help with the over gripping?:confused:

E. Spears
10-06-2008, 11:09 AM
What about using a rubber wrap around, slip on sleeve? Wouldn't that help with the over gripping?:confused:

Hogue makes one with finger grooves for Glocks, seems to help me get the proper grip. :cool:

John Badertscher
10-06-2008, 02:45 PM
A lot depends on your hand size as well.

Slip on overgrips may work for people who have big hands, less effective for people like me.

The other issue comes with slippage when shooting the Glock with a sweaty hand. It starts to spin somewhat in your hand D.R's grip mod eliminates any such movement.

Rob Showe
10-08-2008, 10:17 AM
So how do you all feel about the stick on grit grips?
I was shooting a g36c a bit back that had the grip stickers on and with tactical gloves it was a charm.

D.R. Middlebrooks
10-08-2008, 08:42 PM
Grip tape is fine, I prefer the rubberized kind myself so when I stick the gun inside my waist band it doesn't rub me raw... :cool:

C. Coburn
10-18-2008, 12:25 PM
Hogue makes one with finger grooves for Glocks, seems to help me get the proper grip. :cool:

I heard that DR doesn't like the finger grooves, but I don't know why?? :confused: They seem to help me get my grip in the right position. :cool:

D. Brough
10-18-2008, 01:40 PM
I heard that DR doesn't like the finger grooves, but I don't know why?? :confused: They seem to help me get my grip in the right position. :cool:

I used to think the same thing, but DR pointed out to me in class that the slip on rubber "sock" with the finger grooves tends to move around (off center) at times, which in turn screws up the indexing off the grooves themselves and causes over grip. :(

Mike Wood
10-20-2008, 09:10 PM
I heard that DR doesn't like the finger grooves, but I don't know why?? :confused: :cool:

It may be because it slows down the time it takes to get a perfect index. If you are gripping the gun properly it should feel right w/o the finger grooves. I've personally always felt them to be a hindrance to my index.
MW

D.R. Middlebrooks
10-21-2008, 08:58 AM
Right on, Mike...:cool:

I find the finger grooves are merely "Speed Bumps" that get in the way and slow you down on a quick/speed draw.

Also, I find that I can get a much stronger grip WITHOUT the extra material of the finger grooves.

Get a slip on rubber sock/tube WITHOUT the finger grooves and you'll be way ahead of the game. :)

W. Crumb
11-04-2008, 07:56 AM
I had DR remove the 'speed bumps' from the front of my Glock and I like it better now without the finger grooves/speed bumps. :)

D. Brough
11-05-2008, 09:25 AM
Ditto on the speed bumps that's why I like the older Glocks without them. :cool: